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Gray To Palace?

Julian Gray is still being linked with a move to Crystal Palace despite the transfer window closing.

The player was linked with a deadline day move to Palace but no deal was struck between the clubs and it is likely that Gray won't even be warming the bench very often this season.

Palace's new manager is still very keen on their own former player, and it is believed that in advance of the opening of the window in January that Peter Taylor may make a loan move for Gray to help put a permanent deal in place in advance.

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Date:Sunday September 3 2006

Time: 4:03PM

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A) His name is Julian Gray not Julien as in a girl. B) Palace will be rivaling us for promotion why in god's name would we give them a decent player on loan??? C) Your right about Julian not warming the bench he's going to be in the first eleven. D) It was CHARLTON ATHLETIC who were interested in him not Palace FFS.
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03/09/2006 17:10:00

A: Good spot, got me there. B: A decent player who has slipped behind Mavis the Matchday cook in the pecking order. C: Doesn't look likely so far does it - see B. D: Every report I saw said Palace, but presumably as no bid was entered nobody was that interested anyway. E: After some of his performances I'm sure members of the lady's team could've done better.
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03/09/2006 19:09:00

If he's going to struggle to get on the bench then you might as well get rid. Pity, as he has displayed some quality in a Birmingham shirt.
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03/09/2006 23:26:00

Last season all our wing play seemed to come from the right. From Jermaine Pennant who has since departed to Liverpool. In the stand where I was people got slightly annoyed. We never saw much of the ball given to left sided players like: Gray and Stan. The latter having departed to his native Australia. I would like to see Gray given a run in the team to show the fans what he can do at this level of football. I renember when he had some amazing super duper games for Blues marking Ronaldo out of the game vs Man Utd takes some doing. Let him show he can get stuck in show that he's not a time waster. Give the lad a second chance we the fans should get off his back for once. with thus confidence he can become a good player.
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04/09/2006 17:49:00

I agree it would be good for him to be given a run, especially as this season in many ways is a fresh start to see if he can become the player we all thought he would be. But baring injuries or a suspension it seems everyone but Gray is in consideration for the left hand side and regardless of what he could do he hasn't been doing it when he was in the team, so is it better to cut our losses, loan/sell him on and make sure we don't have another unhappy player in the dressing room. I think a loan all round would be a good idea to be honest. Get him playing regularly again, get his confidence up and if he doesn't come back better for it then who's lost out of the deal.
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05/09/2006 13:41:00

Julian Gray is our second choice left winger and I'm shure if McSheffery got injured touchwood he won't then Gray is a reliable replacement. But maybe wing play is'nt the answer at the moment because we've got no natural width in the team. But I'd not let gray out on loan still.
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05/09/2006 14:31:00

Unless I've missed something though he hasn't even been on the bench so far this season, at least that's what my memory is telling me. As you say though we have no natural balance in terms of width, we seem to be set up to punch through the middle of sides in many ways and if that's actually what Bruce is gunning for then there are better ways to utilise the players we have to make that truly effective. I think I'd still let him go, but not a permanent deal till January - have him available for recall at any point should he be needed. I just think with how things have gone getting him playing first team football would yield better results for us in the long term than leaving him in the reserves. That said it could all change if Bruce decides to loan himself a natural right winger again and we do play with more width - that's when you would expect Gray to a get run out. Shame in many ways we couldn't directly replace Pennant and get some true balance in there again.
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05/09/2006 14:57:00

I do think that the players that we have ca be used as a punch through the middle. Players like left sided McSheffery could play up front perhaps if we bring up this option have a possible two people behind the frontmen. MCSheffery and Dunn both do this job very well. You could then have Johson playing in his natural position. Gray could also be used a left back don't forget and if he is not our second choice left winger he's certainly second choice left back.
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05/09/2006 16:11:00

I always thought McSheffrey played central anyway, surprised to see him occupying a more wide area from what I've seen. Thought he would be used a target man to allow the pace of others to run around him. Johnson is definitely suffering, but I think everyone knows that. Keep forgetting about Gray as left back, although I don't think that's his best position when he is on form. Maybe it would be far easier to go with a more diamond shaped midfield or a direct 3 upfront and really try and punch through. We have the pace and the strength and with Dunn's creativity to ping little balls in and over it might yield more positive results and give Gold the thumpings he wants.
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05/09/2006 16:29:00

You thought McSheffery was a central player jesus christ I thought you where a good journalist? McSheffery paly as a wide left winger or as a striker never in a million years is he a central player. Your right about Gray's natural position not being left-back but he can do a job there. Bruces tactics seems to hit each other in the head and don't work he plays 4-4-2 but we've got no width in the team. What that man dose at his desk is beyond me.
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05/09/2006 16:45:00

What ever gave you the impression I was a journo - I just like rambling! Don't know why (but then again I know nothing of Coventry really) always thought he was a typical centre forward/striker not a wide player. Must have read striker and assumed he just played through the middle - hence I thought he was being brought in to free up the more pacey of our forwards. Agree with that on Bruce, too many players seem to have a habit of not being played in their best positions and then everyone is surprised when their performances aren't top notch. I do think a diamond shape, or straight 3 upfront would suit the players we have and then we wouldn't have to worry about being unbalanced on the wings. It's still early days though, I think the players are taking a little longer to settle with the more physical aspects of the Champ again (especially after Cardiff) and I do think Bruce is tinkering when really this should have been sorted out in preseason. Shouldn't argue too much at the moment though, decent place in the league and only one defeat and we've yet to see our strikers and forward play really gell together. Just a shame Cardiff cocked it up and we are still at the point where we are debating the usefulness of some players.
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05/09/2006 17:34:00

Yeah the Cardiff result really put it in reality where we are going to lose some and draw some. I had the attidue that we where going to break the record of points however with this result it really shows lower teams can cause upsets an maybe we won't break it. For me my aims this season is promotion be that: second or first. I would be dissapointed to come up through the play-offs but still happy all the same. i think the best fpormation providing no injuries is this: Gk- Taylor, Cb's- Upson & N'Gotty Lb and Rb- Sadler, Kelly. AMid- Nafti/ Johson. Then two behind the striker- McSheffery & Dunn. Strikers- Jerome & Campbell. I think we have the basics of a good team a couple of additions though in January.
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05/09/2006 18:08:00

I think we can definitely out play and out score almost all the teams in the league - it's just the gritty battle games where out flair is stiffled and teams close us down quickly we will struggle. Once we find a way round that and start kicking as hard as everyone else we will be fine. Cardiff was a good sign of things to come, the new players already know this, those left from the Prem days are probably still expecting a little more time than they are getting on their ball so they just need to be sharper really. Agree with the selections, and think it would be further improved with Bentner and Larsson starting from the bench to provide a change in the second half. In the Jan window I would look to add somebody in the mould of Savage to be honest as a priority - still think we look weak in terms of backbone and a midfield general.
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06/09/2006 14:00:00


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